[fosscomm] small step for ITEC; giant leap for IT employees

Roopesh P Raj roopesh.praj at gmail.com
Tue Mar 13 22:40:23 PDT 2012


>>Dont like terms find another job

Don't let companies make stupid terms and conditions.


On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:06 AM, haynes davis <haynesdavis at gmail.com>wrote:

> 2.5 lakhs of farmers committed suicide in last 15 years..
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> Dont like terms find another job
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> millions of workers protested on feb 28
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> Dont like terms find another job
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> 77% of population earns less than Rs20 / day
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> Dont like terms find another job
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> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:26 AM, <jtd at mtnl.net.in> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday 13 March 2012 23:09:23 Ravi Shanker wrote:
>> > from the article
>> >
>> > >Information technology (IT) industry in the State, which has enjoyed a
>> >
>> > blanket exemption from the Industrial Employment (Standing Orders) Act,
>> > 1946 for 11 years, will now have to adhere to the rules under this
>> labour
>> > legislation.
>> > <
>> >
>> > during the recession time(I'm not sure any IT company reported loss or a
>> > considerable dip in the profit growth ), i have seen worst types of
>> > retrenchments. sending off a woman employee who has been working for
>> past 5
>> > years from the cubicle and from company premises with in minutes with
>> the
>> > help of security personnel is very vivid in mind. I hope IT companies
>> will
>> > not be able to do this any more.
>> >
>> > > I'd immediately replace all the women who worked in my office with
>> men in
>> >
>> > order to keep costs and complexity down.<
>> >
>> > by deconstructing Raj's statements, one may infer following points.
>> >
>> > 1) Hiring and firing at the employer's will is the best thing happened
>> in
>> > the industry.
>>
>> Dont like terms find another job.
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>> > 2) working post 8pm should be taken for granted.
>>
>> Dont like terms find another job
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>> > 3) Only women are having security concerns. all men are capable to
>> handle
>> > any man handling situation. (& there by male employees are supposed to
>> work
>> > post 8pm. If he declines, then the employer is free to use the
>> retrenchment
>> > tool)
>>
>> Dont like terms find another job
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>> > 4) and last but not least - by nature, women are money eaters, loss
>> makers,
>> > and not suitable for the industry, so where ever possible, one should
>> try
>> > to replace her with men.
>>
>> If you ask industry to take responsibility  for preventing crimes, which
>> is
>> the absolute indisputable duty of the state.
>>
>> Ask the very same women how they find it unplatable when daft police and
>> politicians talk about "indecent" clothes, visit to pubs etc. How about
>> laws
>> that define these for women? I doubt that there will be anything more
>> ridiculous.
>>
>> You dont make safe the streets for this or that person, or  from 9 to 5,
>> or at
>> 10 Janpath.
>>
>> You make it safe 365 days of the year in 100% of the country, for 100% of
>> the
>> people. Not by stupid passing the buck, curfews, shutting bars and such
>> other
>> rubbish, but pursuing every crime and getting 100% conviction.
>> Present conviction rate: 4% !!!
>>
>> The state is passing the buck, and everyone is falling for it.
>> >
>> > >Incidentally, what is the "exploitation of women" that is specific to
>> >
>> > this sector and not covered under normal laws? <
>> >
>> > I'm also interested to know more about this.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Rgds
>> JTD
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